and another reason to never try to do anything on Margarita Mondays, my solution to the weak vocals was to double everything and pan them, which does increase the volume quite a bit, but they still get lost at times, so the solution is to word by word go through every song and adjust the volume versus the music to ensure that everything is heard properly.  either that or I can say I recorded an album in February and fix it all later.  I can't even say that I care at this point.  I'm very happy with the songs themselves, just completely disappointed in my mixing abilities.  I really need to learn Logic.  It would wonderful if anyone would go listen to my mixes and lambaste me here in this public forum, but I know that nobody will, so i'll just sit here miserably at work and wallow in my ineptness.